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First off, Livejournal is being a cold unresponsive little bitch today. Is it me, baby? We used to be so good together. Why aren't you loading your pages like you used to?

Secondly, my neighbour is playing really loud techno. Thankfully, it's not the same song over and over again (which he's done). Unfortunately, it's been going on for some two hours now and is really annoying. My roommate and I have this theory - based on totally judging people by their appearance and small bits of behaviour as espied from the balcony** - that he likes to celebrate the purchase of certain non-medicinal drugs by trancing out to techno, so we basically only get the noise when he's gotten lucky and has money. Omg plz be shutting up now.

Thirdly, the one thing that I'd been meaning to post about for days, I forget to post about when next I post. The fail, it burns. The thing I meant to blog about? The Jus In Bello Convention.

Please consider the following:

1) It was a Supernatural convention
2) It was in Rome.
3) It was from the 2nd to the 4th of April

Add to that:

1) I am a Supernatural fan
2) I was in Rome.
3) I was in Rome during those dates

What do you get?

Nothing.

Why? Because I didn't attend. The Con. For Show. In Rome. When I was there. This upsets me. Photos of Jensen at the Colliseo? Fuck me! I could've walked to the bloody Colliseo! Misha went to Ostia Antica? We bloody well went there! (Well, no, but we went next door, basically, because we'd arrived too late to really make a day of Ostia Antica.) Fuck! I just never did the math well enough to realize that it would have been possible - same place, same time - because those things' tickets are supposedly bloody expensive and need to be bought well in advance. Nevermind the folks on [livejournal.com profile] dean_sam selling tickets last minute. Gold platter, guys! The opportunity was handed to me on a gold freaking platter and I never even turned around to look! Argh!


Meme - 30 Days - Day 22 → A website [livejournal.com profile] ursulav's Red Wombat Studio, a subset of Metal and Magic. Too much win. I love her work - the art, the blurbs, the writing, the comics... ♥

Previously:

Day 01 → Your favorite song
Day 02 → Your favorite movie
Day 03 → Your favorite television program
Day 04 → Your favorite book
Day 05 → Your favorite quote
Day 06 → Whatever tickles your fancy - GIFs
Day 07 → A photo that makes you happy
Day 08 → A photo that makes you angry/sad
Day 09 → A photo you took
Day 10 → A photo of you taken over ten years ago
Day 11 → A photo of you taken recently
Day 12 → Whatever tickles your fancy - Nature is awesome!
Day 13 → A fictional book
Day 14 → A non-fictional book
Day 15 → A fanfic
Day 16 → A song that makes you cry (or nearly)
Day 17 → An art piece (painting, drawing, sculpture, etc.)
Day 18 → Whatever tickles your fancy - My irrational fears, let me show you them.
Day 19 → A talent of yours
Day 20 → A hobby of yours
Day 21 → A recipe

Coming Soon

Day 23 → A YouTube video
Day 24 → Whatever tickles your fancy
Day 25 → Your day, in great detail
Day 26 → Your week, in great detail
Day 27 → This month, in great detail
Day 28 → This year, in great detail
Day 29 → Hopes, dreams and plans for the next 365 days
Day 30 → Whatever tickles your fancy


* Common expression
** Skinny, scary tattooed man acting erratically! It's the first theory we came up with. That doesn't mean it's right, though.

Date: 2010-04-09 08:05 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] seschat.livejournal.com
D:

This is one bad motherfucker to get over :( Sorry, sweetheart! *hugs you madly*

LJ hasn't been working for you either? And here I was thinking that was just my general quota of technology fail.

Date: 2010-04-09 08:25 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bending-sickle.livejournal.com
It's more like EPIC FACEPALM OF FAIL. *sigh*

Also, just finished latest SPN. My heart may just never recover D:

Date: 2010-04-10 12:24 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] seschat.livejournal.com
Are you even surprised anymore? *rolls eyes at Kripke* I'm starting to feel like they're just keep recycling every conflict there ever was since S1. I must admit I'm mildly annoyed with the writers at the moment :/ Although Castiel keeps getting more and more awesome. I found a liquor store. - And? I drank it. *grins*

The next episode is the 100th one, right? Someone promised epic epicness. I half hope that Dean will say yes - just to see Jensen nail it, not because it would mean a particularly desirable turn of events. I.e.: fucking horrible turn of events, but nonetheless! Jensen as Michael would be SO GOOD. :D

Date: 2010-04-10 12:26 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] seschat.livejournal.com
God *double facepalm* There is so much grammar fail today, Adri! Sorry!

Date: 2010-04-10 01:49 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bending-sickle.livejournal.com
It's not grammar fail! It's just...grammar surprise! Yeah, that's it...

Honestly, after the rather meh episodes we had at the beginning, I am reeling a bit from the zoom zoom back into the whole "Plot and Angst!" part of SPN.

I've read some complaints - to put it nicely - about Sam (yea, again) and his "But what about meeee?!?" speech to Dean and I'm flailing a bit because yeah, okay, maybe laying on the "I can't do this without you" guilt may not have been the way to go, but Sam was totally working the "We're a team! A family! Soul mates! Don't lose faith now!" angle of it, so I can't get mad at him for angsting at Dean.

As for Dean... Daminit man! My heart! Stop doing things to it! And I rather liked him going off to see Woman with Boy because the way I see it, it wasn't that Dean was hopelessly in love with her and so on, but that he saw the lost potential he had with her, that he could have had a family with her if he hadn't been, well, himself. So he's hooked on her and the boy because of what he can never have. (Which makes me flail and point angrily at him, because this is what Sam wanted too and Dean never understood. Jerk.)

Jensen as Michael would a) rock epically, b) mean no chance of young!John!Michael, which is sad, c) leave us with no Dean for an extended period of time, which is also sad.

Also, I want a whole episode of snarky drunk Cas. ♥ That is all (as if this were comment were brief, right?).

Date: 2010-04-10 01:52 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bending-sickle.livejournal.com
Ok, I'm not entirely done here...

One review said Sam was being selfish with his "I can't do this without you," because he's always done whatever he wanted but the one second Dean's all, "Peace out, y'all", Sam apparently flips out and wants Dean to do things for him. Which I disagree with, because Dean's played the "I have no one else but you" card so much that Sam's allowed to play it too. Hell, it's the bloody Winchester card, they've all played it.

...it's your fault I'm feeling so protective of Sam, by the way.

Date: 2010-04-10 06:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] seschat.livejournal.com
How is that my fault? ;P Or is my raging!mother!hen shtick overlapping?

... how does Sam want Dean to do things for him? Isn't it much more in Dean's interest, actually, to not say yes? We've seen what Michael does to his vessels, haven't we? It would absolutely crush, Sam, naturally, but it's not like he's all "I don't care what you want! Do this for me, now!" (Now I'm putting fake conversations in my comments, too. Uh oh. ;P We're definitely spending much too much time together talking to each other.)

Also, if we were to apply this "logic", how exactly is Dean's "Stop creeping about and drinking demon blood!" not Dean asking Sam to do things for him?

*drops dead from exhaustion*

Date: 2010-04-10 06:51 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bending-sickle.livejournal.com
It's your fault in that you made me care more about Sam. I mean, I liked him and all, but you've suddenly made me go, "Oh Sammykins! Darling! Don't let the mean people hurt your feelings."

Well, there's always the catch that Michael might be nice and not fry Dean's ass after using him as a vessel, like he did with Young!John... But still, Sam knows Dean doesn't want to hand over the reigns to his life and body to an angel (or as Dean puts it, a dick) and is therefore being the damn rock of their Team Free Will.

Dean could totally have been more supportive of Sam and his demon addiction. He was, actually, rather a jerk about it. "Omg, you sick bastard! What are you doing? You crazy fool! Stop right now! What? Saving innocent people, exocising demons, maybe stopping the last seal being opened? Lalalala I'm not listening."

We do not spend too much time talking to each other, shut up. (♥)

Date: 2010-04-10 07:07 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] seschat.livejournal.com
I rather don't think Michael will care greatly what happens to Dean after he discards him. Sure, he may restore him afterwards, but Michael is pretty much an apathetic bastard who couldn't give two shits what happens to the earth and 6 billion of people, much less Dean who is merely the means to an end.

I totally agree that Sam is currently being the rock of their Team Free Will (and I am kind of amused and heart-warmed by the fact that Dean and Sam seem to be taking turns at it. Cas, you're up next!)

Apropos demon blood: has anyone noticed Sam's progress in that matter, anyway? They've been killing a bunch of demons last episode and Sam hasn't even bat an eye regarding all the tasty demon blood around him. No one has noticed, have they?

I love that I've inspired you to care more about Sam! ;) *huggles you madly*

Shutting up! ♥

Date: 2010-04-10 07:54 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bending-sickle.livejournal.com
I want Cas to get his act together and snark the boys into action like he used to. Sad Cas hurts too much. Sam, hug him, damint!

What I want to know about Sam and the demon blood is why did his blood freakin' burn when he did the anti-angel spell in The Song Remains the Same (I think). I mean, Cas did say, Consuming the amount of blood it would take to kill Lilith would change your brother forever; most likely he would become the next creature you would feel compelled to kill. I mean, if the YED hadn't been right when he said How do you know that what you brought back was a hundred percent, pure, Sam? So as tired as I was with the on-again-off-again treatment of Sam's addiction, I really want them to deal with Sam "the Abomination" Winchester.

...oh dear, too many thinky thoughts.

Date: 2010-04-11 10:41 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] seschat.livejournal.com
I didn't get anything you said, because I've totally forgotten everything you've just listed. Sorry! Elaborate, please? Sam's powers are my favourite topic!

Gah. My mail provider is screwing up to send out the bending_sickle sent you a reply! notifications, which is probably why I missed several of your comments :/

Date: 2010-04-11 11:10 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bending-sickle.livejournal.com
*gasp* Ok, let's see if I can give this a second try and be all coherent.

Show's been making this huge deal over Sam having demon blood in him. First, it was YED's blood, which made him psychic, but with YED's death that power seems to have gone. However, there was still the big "Omg, flail!" that Sam had demon blood in him, making him Different and possiby Evil.

Then there was Ruby's blood, which gave Sam more or different psychic powers. The more blood he got in him, the stronger he was (and also the more different and evil).

So when he was drinking blood to kill Lilith, the amount of power he needed to kill her meant he had to drink a lot of blood which meant he got to be extra evil.

Show's been going on about how Sam can detox from the demon blood, but back whenit was just YED's blood in him, Sam went on about how he had demon blood in him and could never get it out. So that's a no on the detox. Then after Sam sucked Ruby dry (minds out of the gutter!), Castiel believed that that amount of blood and power and the changes they would do to Sam couldn't be gotten rid of with detox. (See above comment's quote.)

So we have two cases where it says that detoxing wouldn't do anything about the demon blood in Sam - it would just stop the cravings. Which means that Sam is Different, at blood-level. Add to that the "Sam was dead then brought back to life and maybe he wasn't brought back a-ok" doubt, and we have a seriously Different (possibly Evil) Sam.

And we see this when Sam does the anit-angel spell with his blood. When Sam does it, the blood burns (http://www.supernaturalfansonline.com/gallery/displayimage.php?album=309&pid=46058) (hellfire, anyone?), but when Dean (http://www.screencaps.org/SciFi/Supernatural/Season-5/Episode-1/Supernatural-S5-E1-245.jpg) or Cas (http://www.supernaturalfansonline.com/gallery/displayimage.php?album=160&pid=15673) do it, it doesn't.

So something is different about Sam and it's tied to his blood. Which is why Cas calls him an abomination. And I want to know more about what it is that makes Sam different, and how.

Did that make sense?

Date: 2010-04-10 06:30 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] seschat.livejournal.com
Wut? Complains, about Sam? Can't be, Adri.

Who will Sam angst at if not Dean? They're each others sole support system, for God's sake, and if one of them falls down, the other one inevitably will follow. So I find it more than understandable that Sam is cracking also, when Dean is so obviously pondering saying yes and pretty much being all "Fuck it all! I'm outta here, bitches!"

About Woman With Boy and Said Boy – we've already seen in Dream A Little Dream Of Me that the things Dean longs and hopes for in the deepest of his subconscious are exactly the same as Sam’s. I don't quite understand how people are always overlooking that every single fucking time when accusing the Evil Boy King. The only difference between Sam and Dean is that Sam actually was aware enough to be able to recognize these feelings, whereas Dean never could allow himself to, or maybe thought he couldn’t allow himself to. Dammit, Sam wanted to be a lawyer! What do lawyers do? Help innocent people. Kick the criminals’ asses. Sound familiar, fandom? No? Dean does the fucking exact same thing, merely on a different level, dammit! I’m not sure that even Dean is aware of that parallelism, though – it has never been acknowledged, anyway – so I’m not surprised that many people in fandom haven’t either, thus exploding into random bouts of Sam, the bastard! Strip him and flay him alive! (Which sounds vaguely kinky, but this is for another time, I believe.)

Also, how is it so far-fetched that Sam would want to get out of their situation at that time, in his youth? Sure, John and Sam fought all the time, all right, but I still believe they also loved each other very much, to a fault, which we know is rather a family trait that every Winchester has shared or shares. There was more to that than that, I believe. The lack of stability, exempli gratia. Always being on the run, in danger; never staying at a place long enough to make one decent acquaintance, much less friend; having to hunt things, kill things, face things so few can even imagine; having to patch up wounds in motel rooms, pace in hospitals, or perhaps even wonder whether one soon might be the only Winchester left. How did Sam and Dean even come out of that as mentally sound adults? I mean, seriously – before the whole ordeal with the YED and, later on, Dean’s deal, they were doing pretty much okay, weren’t they? It’s an honest to God miracle one of them hasn’t just snapped in their youth, including the frothing mouth and a taste of SAW IV.

So, Sam’s departure to Stanford? Seems a very understandable reaction to me, even a ridiculously minor one, and one that had to have been building for years. No way Dean, even John, wouldn't have seen it coming. How could anyone not understand Sam? Seriously. When at times I get so fucking annoyed with my parents that I want nothing more than to get away from them for a good whole while – and I do believe many young people feel that way, a lot of the time – when that little (compared to Dean and Sam) is enough to get us completely worked up, how – how – could anyone not sympathise with Sam?!

DO NOT GET IT.

(Sorry, darling! I'm always having a fit over people dissing Sam.)

Date: 2010-04-10 06:47 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bending-sickle.livejournal.com
WORD. What you said. *nods*

Date: 2010-04-11 01:28 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] seschat.livejournal.com
Where is your SPN banner, young lady?

I AM SO DEFRIENDING! :D

Btw, my Sam's!powers comment is pending, there are just so many things coming in my way :S

Date: 2010-04-11 02:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bending-sickle.livejournal.com
I traded it for SPN icons. I'M STILL COOL!

Date: 2010-04-11 02:26 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] seschat.livejournal.com
Okay, I get it now! Stupid me! *facepalm*

*takes a deep breath*

I have always been terribly confused about all matters regarding Sam’s powers, which I believe is pretty much the show's fault because of the abysmal continuity!fail. If I don’t make any sense, this is why.

First, it was YED's blood, which made him psychic, but with YED's death that power seems to have gone.

Have the powers really been gone, or did Sam just want to believe they were gone? Sam has been always positively terrified of the prospect of him being able to do Stuff, which I believe greatly stems from his fear of Dean’s reaction towards them and ultimately (obviously), towards Sam by association. So it seems only natural that Sam refrains from prodding at these powers, and is only glad to be all So, Dean, since the YESOB is gone now, I’m completely normal! Look at how normal I am! Don’t I look normal?! Say I’m normal, for fuck’s sake! (If I only deny try hard enough, the powers will be gone. THEY WILL!)

Also, I believe that Sam hadn’t started drinking the demon blood before mid-season 4, since we know from that one flashback and several glimpses of Sam training to exorcise demons (and save people, dammit) that he still was in godawful pain while trying to do so. So, in conclusion, I don’t really buy the whole Sam’s powers depend on YED.

I rather believe that by bleeding into wee!Sammy’s mouth YED, I don’t know, maybe activated or woke Sam to his powers. Supernaturalwiki claims that

In "Lucifer Rising," it is revealed that his [Sam's] powers are not actually given to him through the drinking of demon blood, rather they were always fully his.


This apparently is referring to Ruby telling Sam you never needed the feather: you could always do it on your own, Dumbo, or something like this, anyway. I don’t remember the exact wording, but Sam’s just offed Lilith, Lucifer is rising, and Ruby is pretty much revealing him her Big Damn Genius Plan, completely uncensored. Why should she lie about Sam’s powers? Can we assume that the demon blood just worked as a placebo, that Ruby had Sam drinking it to be able to control him? This would make sense if we turn to Ava, who started out exactly as Sam, who didn’t touch even a drop of demon blood, but nonetheless was able to kick ass like no one else. Didn’t she describe her developing powers with you just have to turn a switch in your head and it all comes to you? I believe she did in All Hell Breaks Loose I. So what is it with the whole frickin’ drinking of demon blood? Also, it is known that YED was actually a fallen angel, which pretty much raises even more questions. *drops dead from confusion*

And we see this when Sam does the anti-angel spell with his blood. When Sam does it, the blood burns (hellfire, anyone?), but when Dean or Cas do it, it doesn't.

I must admit that I hadn’t noticed that at all! *gasps* … I mean, all you said was completely right and the show does, indeed, suggest that Sam is different now (see Anna, the crazy bitch, looking at Sam and going all “Sam, you have changed! Is that a new haircut?”; and I’m also highly interested in how exactly Sam is different.

But my problem always was the sheer strangeness of the detoxing. At times, Sam seems to be just fine after having “used up” all the blood, then again the powers throw him all around Bobby’s panic room (which was awesome, by the way; I want Sam’s TK back!)… everything’s just so damn inconclusive, and the show doesn’t exactly help us clear things up.



Part 2

Date: 2010-04-11 02:26 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] seschat.livejournal.com
If taken into consideration that due to the writers’ strike back in S3, a lot of the, er, plot had to be reworked, it seems likely that the writers aren’t able to overlook what the hell is going on in their own show anyway, anymore. I mean, it is fact that Sam had been supposed to develop his powers back in S3 right after Mystery Spot and save Dean from hell! Also, Kripke only had the plot worked out for mere four seasons, hence many filler episodes, conflict recycling and whatnot.

I believe the writers just sat themselves down around one table one evening and were all: “Shit, what are we gonna do with ‘em now? Stupid fangirls. It would have all worked out so prettily, and now?! Ah, to hell with it all. Let’s do some Sam-bashing!”

Yes/No? Also, please ignore any and all grammatical errors. I don’t have currently the impetus to look through my verbiage.

Re: Part 2

Date: 2010-04-11 02:36 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] seschat.livejournal.com
"... let's do some Sam-bashing! And then we'll have some Dean-bashing! And then we'll torture Castiel! And then Sam will drink demon blood and everyone will hate him! Including Dean! And then Dean will cry! A lot! Again! And since we won't be able to make people despise Sam for the demon blood all the time, we'll just have to roll up the old you left for Stanford! Ungrateful little shit! Hah! It will be glorious!"

*headdesk*

Even more spam!

Date: 2010-04-11 02:43 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] seschat.livejournal.com
"... also, because we're sick of the fangirls, but shhht, don't tell anyone, we'll dedicate five episodes to the Prophet Of The Lord Chuck just to tell show those crazy people how ridiculous and batshit they are, even if it is no way relevant for the general plot development! Except for, maybe, creating a deus ex machina because we have absolutely no idea how to make Sam and Dean find this damn Colt! Which they won't need afterwards anyway, but whatever! Stuff happened! They're all just watching to ogle Jensen Ackles, anyway. Don't worry, they won't notice."

*double headdesk*

Sorry, Adri!

Re: Even more spam!

Date: 2010-04-11 03:16 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bending-sickle.livejournal.com
Seriously, if Chuck doesn't show up again and do something actually relevant to the apocalypse, I will grumble. If he does show up (with Crazy Fangirl who it totally not representative of reality) and doesn't do anything but point and laugh at the audience, I will grumble. And I liked Chuck.

No apologies needed, darling. Ranting is fun :)

Date: 2010-04-11 06:09 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] seschat.livejournal.com
I liked Chuck, too! But I never actually got the purpose of introducing his character. (Except for, of course, to tell us to BACK OFF WITH ALL THE BROTHER SLASH. Wimps.)

Re: Part 2

Date: 2010-04-11 03:13 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bending-sickle.livejournal.com
And then Dean will cry! A lot! Again! - The basis for many an episode - and fanfic - plot. It's probably a whole story arc, Dean and his manly tears.

Re: Part 2

Date: 2010-04-11 03:06 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bending-sickle.livejournal.com
YED was actually a fallen angel - OMGWTFBBQ?!? I seem to be missing this memory! When was this said? Was it Anna?

[Sam's] powers are not actually given to him through the drinking of demon blood, rather they were always fully his. - Well maybe not through drinking Ruby's blood once he was all grown up, which is what she says anyway, but I still think that YED and his blood did something. Maybe it was more of a "With this blood I do hereby flip a demonic switch in the wee baby!" than "Let's fill this baby's belly with demonic blood so he's bursting with demony goodness!"

I mean, sure, maybe Sam didn't need Ruby's blood to develop his powers, but those powers were there because of demonic blood in the first place. I always saw the blood drinking as Sam tapping an energy source for powers he already had. The more of Ruby's blood he had, the faster he could flip the switch to use his powers and the more he could do with them. Castiel's "Your brother's going to become a monster" prediction aside, we did see Sam go all black-eyed when killing Lilith. I want to know if this was because of Ruby's blood - in which case Demon!Sam goes away with the detox - or if it was because his power skills were so strong - in which case, Sammy's pretty screwed.

As for Sam's psychic powers being gone through the magic of denial - hilarious Sam dialogue you wrote there, by the way :D - rather than being tied to YED (which makes no sense! "Oops! He's dead! No more power for you!" ...unless it wasn't powers but a psychic link to YED, but that can't be because the other YED kids had other powers)... I really would love it if he still visions, but they haven't smacked him in the head lately and it's not like he ever learned to control them. However, all the other demonic mojo - the "demonic power switch" - that the YED gave him? No amount of detoxing is going to take that away, Sammy. It's abomination all the way.

Sam had been supposed to develop his powers back in S3 right after Mystery Spot and save Dean from hell! - ...I want to read this now.

My comments are all over the place and probably too rambley to be coherent, so don't hesitate to point and laugh and ask me to restate it in normal-speak.

And she was so totally using her status as blood donor to control Sam.

The detox thing is all over the place. It's saying that Sam was addicted to the blood - physically, not just mentally, "I need this to help people!" - so it had to be having some sort of effect on him, even if it wasn't the source of his powers.

Re: Part 2

Date: 2010-04-11 03:12 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bending-sickle.livejournal.com
So apparently I think I've finished a comment and then stuff I've typed shows up at the bottom that I never quite finished. I am horribly disorganized *hands head in shame*

About the detox again: they're assuming that Sam can get over the addiction to demon blood by just waiting until the demon blood works its way out of his system and he stops wanting it (which are, admittedly, two different things with different timelines). But then that suggests that the demon blood can leave Sam's body and doesn't like, I don't know, transform into demon power and hides out in his kidneys forever. But that goes against the assumption that Sam was permanently tained by drinking YED's blood. But Sam's still an abomination and Different.

...I'm so confused.

Re: Part 2

Date: 2010-04-11 05:59 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] seschat.livejournal.com
*triple headdesk* I'm so stupid! I've totally presented the whole YED's a fallen angel! bit like it's a fact, whereas it isn't! It certainly at no time has been said so in the show. It's just that it’s been numerously mentioned in fandom, and apparently, something in brain liked the idea and after some sloppy Wikipedia'ing I was pretty much caught up in the theory, although naturally without actually having a real evidence. I'm completely ridiculous, so please accept my apologies, yes? I mean, it would certainly mean new discussion fodder if Azazel being a fallen angel would be actually confirmed, but in the current state of affairs it just is a mere assumption. *quadruple headdesk* Once again, sorry! That was utterly, utterly unscientific.

As for the Sam had been supposed to develop his powers back in S3 right after Mystery Spot and save Dean from hell! - I'm pretty very sure I've actually read that in an interview with Kripke/one of the writers/producers/Someone In High Places, although that was in the time when I still cared about staying informed in regards to the show. But I swear I'm not making that one up! (Like everything else, gah.)

[...] We did see Sam go all black-eyed when killing Lilith.

Oh, I've totally forgotten that.

But that goes against the assumption that Sam was permanently tainted by drinking YED's blood. But Sam's still an abomination and Different.

… You're right on every account. Good heavens, but the detoxing totally doesn't make any sense! Maybe it's just that only the YED's blood has made Sam an "abomination," left a permanent mark on him? Which, again, doesn't make any sense, since Cas and Anna only had started to remark on Sam being changed in the time in which he’d begun to actually drink the damn blood. And if Sam can detox from Ruby's or any other lesser demon's blood, why doesn't he still have the powers he had in S1/2? I mean, okay, the visions maybe can be explained away by saying that every one of his visions had somehow been linked to the YED or the Special Children. But the bout of TK? ...

I don't even get what I'm saying myself anymore.

Date: 2010-04-11 06:02 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] seschat.livejournal.com
Also, grammar!surprise!

I'm just too stupid today.

Date: 2010-04-11 06:18 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bending-sickle.livejournal.com
Ugh, I think both our brains have been squished by all this meta (which I looove discussin with you). But at least we've come to the conclusion that a) we need more explanation on Sam, the demon blood and exactly what kind of weird he is, b) more TK!Sam (yes please!) and c) Show is confusing in a bad way.



Also, ok, I'm pimping this post of mine (http://bending-sickle.livejournal.com/402095.html) again, because we've talked a bit about stuff like that andI don't know if you've seen it and I'm an attention-seeking fool. Or something. Just, um, more thingy thoughts on the SamnDean dynamic.

Date: 2010-04-11 06:39 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] seschat.livejournal.com
We should just print it all out and send it to Kripke and demand explanation! Or else! ... *headdesks*

But discussing with you is just so much fun! ♥

No, I've seen it, but then I had to rant about Stanford and have neglected your post completely. NO CAN DO!

Date: 2010-04-11 06:44 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bending-sickle.livejournal.com
Well, if I'd gone to the JIB Con I could've just asked but I didn't because I suck. And honestly, I wouldn't have asked anyway, because I have Le Shy.

Discussion with you = win ♥

Discuss more! \o/

Date: 2010-04-11 07:08 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] seschat.livejournal.com
YOU DO NOT SUCK! Be quiet!

... but who would you have asked, anyway (or, well, not asked for that matter)? ... Jared?

As if he gets it himself! ;P

*twirls you around madly* You're made of utter win and I adore you!

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