Response to
mrscastielftw's review of Supernatural, "The Mentalist" (7x07), because I went way overboard with the typing and the feelings and LJ-comments can't contain me:
I love that Dean has no qualms about jumping right into Sam’s booth! He is adorably infuriating when he’s oblivious to the feelings of others. - Adorable, yes, but it also broke my heart a little because I couldn't figure out whether he actually was that clueless or if he was just trying to pretend everything was ok because he was just that desperate.
YOU ARE A VIRILE MANIFESTATION OF THE DIVINE - It's just the truth. (...tell me God's not hiding inside Dean Winchester so he really is a manifestation of the divine. Tell me this is just about him being Michael's vessel and the first seal and all that destiny stuff.)
"I’ve got an open-mind. You’d be surprised." Um, you can’t say that and only see things in black and white, Silly Goose! - Yes, Dean. I'm surprised. What I'm surprised at is how very not open your mind is, because you're still operating on the black-and-white manual your dad drilled into you as a kid, despite meeting actually-not-all-that-bad demons and monsters and whatnot. But hey, hypocrisy seems to the flavour of the season.
Jimmy Tomorrow - Is that a subtle hint that Mr. Novak will be back for the lovely bending_sickle?!?! - Always promisingjam Jimmy tomorrow. I want him today! (Possibly sharing vessel time with Castiel so we get to see Castiel argue with Jimmy with Jimmy's own face. ...what? A girl can dream.)
"They weren’t actually brothers. That was just a cover for their 'alternative lifestyle.'" - This whole episode was heavy on the whole "cover" thing, starting with the FBI Winchesters, the fake psychics, and the pawn shop guy. Everyone had a cover and every one blew it. (Except Dean, who's still not taking off his "I'm fine!" mask, despite Ellen's threat.)
"Look, I’ll work this damn case, but you lied to me. And you killed my friend." - There is not enough love in the world for how I felt about Sam just then. And also when he was so pissed at Dean even at the start, in the diner.
"I get why she’s killing people. I just don’t get why she’s warning them." - 0.000001 seconds later, I figured it out. Because it's not like the boys haven't seen this a couple hundred times already (or the audience, for that matter, in so many other works of fiction.)
I can’t believe he’s still trying to rationalize killing Amy! - And yet not a word on those two witches out there still alive and probably having more marital tiffs involving other people's internal organs.
Now, let’s put on Buffy and watch Spike’s transformation from BAMF villain to Love’s BAMF Bitch.” - Dean's being very Xander-ish. Like, no matter what, no matter what favours the monsters give them or how much they help or how not-at-all-evil they are, he sticks to his "slay everything with a bumpy forehead" schtick.
Dean exuded an air of smugness, "You still want to break my face?" I pretended to ponder the concept, "Yes. Yes, I do." Then I did. - It's like we were reading the same script that night. Oh Dean, why are you making it so hard to love you?
"Of course ever since Cas, I’m having a hard time trusting anyone" - You know in The Man Who Would Be King, when Sam tells Cas he did a "piss-poor job" of pulling him out of hell? You can imagine the amount of angry flailing and cursing that watching that involves for me, right? Amp that up to eleven for what Dean said here. If he hadn't said "trusting", if it'd been "letting them in" or something along those lines, I would be fine.
But just when did Castiel betray him? Working with Crowley? It's not all about you, Dean. Fighting heaven's civil war to save the world from the apocalypse? Hey, that's something you did last year, Dean. Breaking Sam's wall so you'd let him save the freakin' world? You did trap him in a fire circle "just to talk", and locked your brother in the panic room when he needed to detox, so, you've pretty much done the same. So what does Cas have to do with Dean's trust issues (especially when Dean already had epic trust issues since he was a baby)?
*breathes*
Hey, Sebastian Roche's on TVD? *jots down onto To Watch list*
* Edgar Allan Poe
I love that Dean has no qualms about jumping right into Sam’s booth! He is adorably infuriating when he’s oblivious to the feelings of others. - Adorable, yes, but it also broke my heart a little because I couldn't figure out whether he actually was that clueless or if he was just trying to pretend everything was ok because he was just that desperate.
YOU ARE A VIRILE MANIFESTATION OF THE DIVINE - It's just the truth. (...tell me God's not hiding inside Dean Winchester so he really is a manifestation of the divine. Tell me this is just about him being Michael's vessel and the first seal and all that destiny stuff.)
"I’ve got an open-mind. You’d be surprised." Um, you can’t say that and only see things in black and white, Silly Goose! - Yes, Dean. I'm surprised. What I'm surprised at is how very not open your mind is, because you're still operating on the black-and-white manual your dad drilled into you as a kid, despite meeting actually-not-all-that-bad demons and monsters and whatnot. But hey, hypocrisy seems to the flavour of the season.
Jimmy Tomorrow - Is that a subtle hint that Mr. Novak will be back for the lovely bending_sickle?!?! - Always promising
"They weren’t actually brothers. That was just a cover for their 'alternative lifestyle.'" - This whole episode was heavy on the whole "cover" thing, starting with the FBI Winchesters, the fake psychics, and the pawn shop guy. Everyone had a cover and every one blew it. (Except Dean, who's still not taking off his "I'm fine!" mask, despite Ellen's threat.)
"Look, I’ll work this damn case, but you lied to me. And you killed my friend." - There is not enough love in the world for how I felt about Sam just then. And also when he was so pissed at Dean even at the start, in the diner.
"I get why she’s killing people. I just don’t get why she’s warning them." - 0.000001 seconds later, I figured it out. Because it's not like the boys haven't seen this a couple hundred times already (or the audience, for that matter, in so many other works of fiction.)
I can’t believe he’s still trying to rationalize killing Amy! - And yet not a word on those two witches out there still alive and probably having more marital tiffs involving other people's internal organs.
Now, let’s put on Buffy and watch Spike’s transformation from BAMF villain to Love’s BAMF Bitch.” - Dean's being very Xander-ish. Like, no matter what, no matter what favours the monsters give them or how much they help or how not-at-all-evil they are, he sticks to his "slay everything with a bumpy forehead" schtick.
Dean exuded an air of smugness, "You still want to break my face?" I pretended to ponder the concept, "Yes. Yes, I do." Then I did. - It's like we were reading the same script that night. Oh Dean, why are you making it so hard to love you?
"Of course ever since Cas, I’m having a hard time trusting anyone" - You know in The Man Who Would Be King, when Sam tells Cas he did a "piss-poor job" of pulling him out of hell? You can imagine the amount of angry flailing and cursing that watching that involves for me, right? Amp that up to eleven for what Dean said here. If he hadn't said "trusting", if it'd been "letting them in" or something along those lines, I would be fine.
But just when did Castiel betray him? Working with Crowley? It's not all about you, Dean. Fighting heaven's civil war to save the world from the apocalypse? Hey, that's something you did last year, Dean. Breaking Sam's wall so you'd let him save the freakin' world? You did trap him in a fire circle "just to talk", and locked your brother in the panic room when he needed to detox, so, you've pretty much done the same. So what does Cas have to do with Dean's trust issues (especially when Dean already had epic trust issues since he was a baby)?
*breathes*
Hey, Sebastian Roche's on TVD? *jots down onto To Watch list*
* Edgar Allan Poe
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Date: 2011-11-08 11:29 pm (UTC)Adorable, yes, but it also broke my heart a little because I couldn't figure out whether he actually was that clueless or if he was just trying to pretend everything was ok because he was just that desperate. Perhaps, it was just a touch of the Cocky!Dean of the first couple seasons. Or maybe, Dean knows that if he lets Sam go, then he may not get a chance to make it up to him – Everyone else is dropping like flies! Maybe, it is all just further build up to an even bigger break-up later in the season?!? I actually think he was just that desperate and if he pretended it was okay, then it would be…Which kind of worked for him in the end.
...tell me God's not hiding inside Dean Winchester Can you imagine the party that God!Dean and Ash would throw?!? God!Dean and Crowley…I can’t…It might be amazing!
Yes, Dean. I'm surprised. What I'm surprised at is how very not open your mind is, because you're still operating on the black-and-white manual your dad drilled into you as a kid, despite meeting actually-not-all-that-bad demons and monsters and whatnot. But hey, hypocrisy seems to the flavour of the season. I love you!
Always promising
jamJimmy tomorrow. I want him today! (Possibly sharing vessel time with Castiel so we get to see Castiel argue with Jimmy with Jimmy's own face. ...what? A girl can dream.) That would be epic! I feel really bad about Jimmy. If just being a vessel for Cas was bad, imagine how it felt with all the souls and the Leviathan!(Except Dean, who's still not taking off his "I'm fine!" mask, despite Ellen's threat.) Picture it…Cas comes back and hugs Dean - Finally, Dean lets his emotions out and they all learn a valuable lesson about love and tolerance.
There is not enough love in the world for how I felt about Sam just then. And also when he was so pissed at Dean even at the start, in the diner. My Sam love is off the charts. I cheered so hard when he yelled at Dean. Express your feelings and work through your issues!
And yet not a word on those two witches out there still alive and probably having more marital tiffs involving other people's internal organs. Witches that admittedly killed numerous people and didn’t even feel a bit of remorse about it. *Frustrated*
Dean's being very Xander-ish…he sticks to his "slay everything with a bumpy forehead" schtick. Very true!
Oh Dean, why are you making it so hard to love you? It is really hard this season – I do love him, but I am consumed with the desire to smash his face in...a lot.
"Of course ever since Cas, I’m having a hard time trusting anyone" - You know in The Man Who Would Be King, when Sam tells Cas he did a "piss-poor job" of pulling him out of hell? You can imagine the amount of angry flailing and cursing that watching that involves for me, right? Amp that up to eleven for what Dean said here. If he hadn't said "trusting", if it'd been "letting them in" or something along those lines, I would be fine. I was already upset with Dean and then THIS… Pure uncontained fury!
But just when did Castiel betray him? Working with Crowley? It's not all about you, Dean. Fighting heaven's civil war to save the world from the apocalypse? Hey, that's something you did last year, Dean. Breaking Sam's wall so you'd let him save the freakin' world? You did trap him in a fire circle "just to talk", and locked your brother in the panic room when he needed to detox, so, you've pretty much done the same. So what does Cas have to do with Dean's trust issues (especially when Dean already had epic trust issues since he was a baby)? Also, Cas told Dean that he was going to do something if he didn’t stand down. I know everyone likes to act like Cas just strolled in and broke the wall, but he gave them warning. Dean has such a huge double standard, especially with Cas.
Hey, Sebastian Roche's on TVD? *jots down onto To Watch list* He was on a preview that they showed during a commercial break.
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Date: 2011-11-11 03:45 pm (UTC)Maybe, it is all just further build up to an even bigger break-up later in the season?!? - Don't you dare! Years we've had of the boys breaking up and punching each other and breaking up again! If we're going back to basics, then I demand brotherly love. *squints at writers*
God!Dean and Crowley…I can’t…It might be amazing! - 0.0 Also, Crowley and Death and a lot of talking. Possibly at Dean. I might need to see that happen.
feel really bad about Jimmy. If just being a vessel for Cas was bad, imagine how it felt with all the souls and the Leviathan! - If Jimmy didn't go to heaven the first or second time Cas sexploded, did he get sucked into Purgatory? D:
Also, Cas told Dean that he was going to do something if he didn’t stand down. I know everyone likes to act like Cas just strolled in and broke the wall, but he gave them warning. Dean has such a huge double standard, especially with Cas. - Exactly. Y'know, when Dean told Cas he was "like a brother to him", especially after the way he'd been treating him that whole season (what was that?!) I couldn't help wanting to point at Dean and going, "You lie! Good sir, you lie!"
Happy Impending-Supernatural-Day! \o/
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Date: 2011-11-11 03:47 pm (UTC)Castiel may sexplode, but certainly not those times.
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Date: 2011-11-11 11:50 pm (UTC)Don't you dare! Years we've had of the boys breaking up and punching each other and breaking up again! If we're going back to basics, then I demand brotherly love. *squints at writers* If only they would listen to us! *Shakes Fist*
0.0 Also, Crowley and Death and a lot of talking. Possibly at Dean. I might need to see that happen. I NEED THIS IN MY LIFE!
If Jimmy didn't go to heaven the first or second time Cas exploded, did he get sucked into Purgatory? D: I’ve always hoped that he went to Heaven, but there is a lot of grey area there and many, many possibilites. If you think about it, there is always going to be some force trying to takeover Heaven or kill the Winchesters, so Jimmy would never have been able to go home. *Goes to cuddle Jimmy*
Exactly. Y'know, when Dean told Cas he was "like a brother to him", especially after the way he'd been treating him that whole season (what was that?!) I couldn't help wanting to point at Dean and going, "You lie! Good sir, you lie!" EXACTLY! *Nods*
Happy Impending-Supernatural-Day To You As Well – Even Though Yours Is Technically Tomorrow!
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Date: 2011-11-11 11:58 pm (UTC)GIFs to make it better:
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Date: 2011-11-14 03:10 pm (UTC)My attitude to Crowley is basically I want 1) more and 2) scenes with everyone. Because.
If you think about it, there is always going to be some force trying to takeover Heaven or kill the Winchesters, so Jimmy would never have been able to go home. *Goes to cuddle Jimmy* - ...why? Why would you write that? *follows you to the Jimmy-hug-circle*
This is also why, when the show finally ends and the writers close the Supernatural book, the option of them dying together in a blaze of glory wouldn't work, because they'd just go on fighting in heaven. In fact, even if the Winchesters die of old age with beer guts surrounded by grandchildren and pie, even then it would be a sad and horrible ending because of the pitchforks waiting for them in heaven. So I don't know why the writers aren't dealing with heaven and the repercussions of the civil war, because it's kind of a big deal.
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Date: 2011-11-14 03:15 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2011-11-14 11:07 pm (UTC)My attitude to Crowley is basically I want 1) more and 2) scenes with everyone. Because. AGREED!
...why? Why would you write that? *follows you to the Jimmy-hug-circle* I’m sorry. Jimmy makes me feel wretchedly heartbroken. I’m sure that was completely wrong *Shifty Eyes* Just ignore it. Look Crowley… *Runs and Hides*
This is also why, when the show finally ends and the writers close the Supernatural book, the option of them dying together in a blaze of glory wouldn't work, because they'd just go on fighting in heaven. In fact, even if the Winchesters die of old age with beer guts surrounded by grandchildren and pie, even then it would be a sad and horrible ending because of the pitchforks waiting for them in heaven. So I don't know why the writers aren't dealing with heaven and the repercussions of the civil war, because it's kind of a big deal.I mean, it’s just Heaven. It isn’t that important. The writers kill me. These are details we need. Seriously, why would Heaven standby and let the Leviathans run amuck?!? *Frustrated* Side note: I kind of think in Show will have a non-ending – Where whatever the current Big Bad happens to be is dealt with, then they just get in the Impala and drive off into the sunset.
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Date: 2011-11-14 11:07 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2011-11-14 11:25 pm (UTC)Seriously, why would Heaven standby and let the Leviathans run amuck?!? - If there's no one left on Castiel's side of "just say "no" to the apocalypse", then I figure heaven is either actively rooting for the Leviathans to devour the world or are licking their wounds. Not that, y'know, this is important information. *shakes writers*
"Side note: I kind of think in Show will have a non-ending – Where whatever the current Big Bad happens to be is dealt with, then they just get in the Impala and drive off into the sunset." - Yeah, I'm expecting more this type of ending as well, but then there would still need to be some sort of closure, or at least these big issues would have to be addressed. Because if not then the audience is just watching the boys drive off to monsters, death and horrible things. (Also, if they try to go the no-closure way, like Angel, just "and now, more fighting!", then I will chew through a table in frustration.)
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Date: 2011-11-14 11:54 pm (UTC)If there's no one left on Castiel's side of "just say "no" to the apocalypse", then I figure heaven is either actively rooting for the Leviathans to devour the world or are licking their wounds. Not that, y'know, this is important information. *shakes writers* I guess, but it just seems that no matter what they would want to take out the Leviathans, you know, just cause - Evil not meant for this world and all *Shrugs*
Yeah, I'm expecting more this type of ending as well, but then there would still need to be some sort of closure, or at least these big issues would have to be addressed. Because if not then the audience is just watching the boys drive off to monsters, death and horrible things. (Also, if they try to go the no-closure way, like Angel, just "and now, more fighting!", then I will chew through a table in frustration.) I can almost guarantee you that no matter how they end it, we will both want to chew through a table in frustration.
Insert GIF about life as a fangirl:
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Date: 2011-11-15 12:04 am (UTC)I can almost guarantee you that no matter how they end it, we will both want to chew through a table in frustration. - XD I love you! Alas, this will probably be true. No table shall be spared!
Insert GIF about life as a fangirl - But I'm not happy about it! Not now, at least. I'm all gnashing my teeth and chewing through wooden things like a frustrated hamster with no exercise wheel.
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Date: 2011-11-15 12:16 am (UTC)XD I love you! Alas, this will probably be true. No table shall be spared! Luckily, we can complain to each other!
But I'm not happy about it! Not now, at least. I'm all gnashing my teeth and chewing through wooden things like a frustrated hamster with no exercise wheel. What I think the GIF is saying, is that when fandom is good – It’s GOOD. Thus, we allow ourselves to be dragged through the fiery pits of hell and cry at the loss of our beloved fictional characters, but we ALWAYS come back. We suffer all the angst, Sam and Dean breaking up, lies, betrayals, character death – both temporary and permanent, and we do it all for that one perfect moment when Crowley has a beard and nothing hurts *Giggles at the absurdity of myself* Also, I can look into finding you an exercise wheel if you want.
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Date: 2011-11-15 12:34 am (UTC)We suffer all the angst, Sam and Dean breaking up, lies, betrayals, character death – both temporary and permanent, and we do it all for that one perfect moment when Crowley has a beard and nothing hurts. - *breaks down into incoherent laughing and flailing* This is now my battle cry. For the beard!
Aaaaand have some close-ups of the Wonderbeard: One (http://crowleyismyco-pilot.tumblr.com/post/12691730334), Two (in action!) (http://crowleyismyco-pilot.tumblr.com/post/12675357607) and Three (now with sideburns!) (http://crowleyismyco-pilot.tumblr.com/post/12676203049)
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Date: 2011-11-15 12:40 am (UTC)*breaks down into incoherent laughing and flailing* This is now my battle cry. For the beard! *Laughs too hard to type response*
Aaaaand have some close-ups of the Wonderbeard: One, Two (in action!) and Three (now with sideburns!) You and the Wonderbeard are far too good to me! I can’t even begin to describe the utter majesty of the beard *Flails*